Curse

Kijik Oni Hanryuu · Jul 03, 2006, 05:13 AM // 05:13

id yer talking about the festival, gimme proof they were planning to "bake" this "chicken" along time ago... Oh and uh shit happens, deal with it.

Also, haven't any of you ever heard the phrase "patience is golden"? I swear half of you guys need a bit more gold in your lives, and you need to grow up a little..

-Loki- · Jul 03, 2006, 05:17 AM // 05:17

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Originally Posted by Kijik Oni Hanryuu

id yer talking about the festival, gimme proof they were planning to "bake" this "chicken" along time ago... Oh and uh shit happens, deal with it.

Event in that case didn't mean in game event. I was talking about the storage addition.

Gorebrex · Jul 03, 2006, 05:19 AM // 05:19

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

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Originally Posted by generik

After selling 2 million copies they can't even afford to *gasp* buy a few scores of $30 40 GB harddrives! Not like those dated drives are so expensive to begin with!

if you think that is what they need or use you are not just clueless you are beyond reasoning with.

if this game makes you so unhappy i fail to see you continuing to bitch unless bitching about a game is the high point in you day.

40 GB hard drive wont cut it, what they would need is more like a couple of these http://www.pricewatch.com/hard_drives/6043-1.htm
Cant speak for generik, but the game doesnt make ME unhappy, just certain aspects of it. Would you not buy a car because you didnt like the tread pattern on the tires?

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Originally Posted by -Loki-

Then why are you arguing how it should work when you don't know how it can work?

WHAT!?!? HELLO?!!? You just told ALMOST EVERYONE in this thread to "shut up and be happy with whatever you're given". I also DIDNT say I had no idea whatsoever about it, Ive done some programming, and found it excruciatingly difficult, so I dont bother with it anymore. I also appreciate your comments on my suggestions, and btw, whats YOUR background, that you can so easily dismiss anyone who thinks they have a decent idea about how this "improvement" should have been done? Also, Ive read this from you(bottom of page)

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Originally Posted by Exoudeous

1 they use servers, not regualr hard drives. if you really thought hard drives were needed, you are beyond clueless.

2. 2 million copies x even the smallest increase in account file size is alot of memory.

1. -Ok... But they might be.
2. Not really. The "smallest increase in account file size" would mean an additional 2million bits, or 250kb(a little less than 1/6 of a floppy). Even if you add on a full byte, it's only an additional 2 MB total for everyone. I had a computer 20 years ago, that had half that much memory standard, and 30 times that in HDD space(couldve added more RAM for 2 MB). Its not much.

To "the cheerleaders" Look, we DO have a right to complain about things we dont like. What about bugs? Should we not mention those, and just say, "Well, its a great game, and its free, so we're not allowed to complain, that would be wrong"? I gotta ask, have you EVER returned something to a store because you didnt like/need/want/already had it? Dont sound like it, sounds like you'd say, "Oh boy! I got extra!" I (and others) WILL complain about things we dont care for, as well as compliment things we like, thats how it works. NOONE in their right mind would never complain about anything.

Also, Id REALLY have liked it if Gaile or someone "in the know" couldve commented on my suggestion, even if it was to say, "Thats not they way our sytem works, the program doesnt do it that way", or even "That wont work, because the programming's different than you think". Hell, pm me or post, I would just like to know someone heard! : D

-Loki- · Jul 03, 2006, 05:21 AM // 05:21

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Originally Posted by Gorebrex

WHAT!?!? HELLO?!!? You just told ALMOST EVERYONE in this thread to "shut up and be happy with whatever you're given"

No, I didn't. I attempted to use an analogy to explain to someone why everyone was whining about the storage addition.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu · Jul 03, 2006, 05:22 AM // 05:22

I do believe the wait on the storage thing could be accounted to, multiple massive skill overhauls, the rushing out of factions due to them trying to keep their promise and massive whining, many new items additions, tournaments. You have to think they are just now getting a break to add this stuff because the Festival tided them over, seriously guys be a little more positive the world isn't out to screw you. Though I seriously think that the "non wordly" forces like luck and such do like to screw with people, but that's the little insane part of me talking. I also thoroughly believe everyone is atleast a liiiittle crazy.

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ok gorebrex RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO you gotta love the gored engine, about the cheerleaders thing, we aren't cheerleaders we are gracious unlike you greedy SoBs who just want more and more and more, ya know gluttony and greed are sins, have fun where yer going, I'll just cheerlead here on earth while you waste your life whining, and crying for more.. about the bugs, that's different you mention them so they can get changed you little sob are whining for something EXTRA if it wasn't extra then half the GW community wouldn't have been able to keep going right now. I also yes I do return something to the store if I don't like it, why don't you do the same and return GW if you don't like it so much and free up some server space, I could use it. O h and the whining about "omg my suggestions don't get recognition, whiiine whiiine biitch" I don't get recognition for my suggestions or my attempts to shut down the idiocy in these threads, I still do it because I know it is right. so I say the same to you ESBATMFOAD

Kijik Oni Hanryuu · Jul 03, 2006, 05:35 AM // 05:35

before I(or anyone else) get anymore involved, could a mod please close this thread, it has degenerated into a flame fest... like every other thread that attacks Anet.

gamecube187 · Jul 03, 2006, 05:36 AM // 05:36

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Originally Posted by -Loki-

Hey, not to fret, your hungry, I'll bake you a chicken. Oh, wait, theres some complications with catching it, it'll take some time. Ok, it took us 3 months to catch the bugger, we'll bake it now. Oh, crap, we don't have what we need to prepare it, we'll grab it now. Sorry, our cars all broke down and every store closed, we had to walk to the next state. Sorry that took 4 months. Now we'll bake it. CRAP! The oven broke, we have to fix it. Ok, sorry fixing the oven took another 3 months. Now we can bake it. Wow, the oven temperature won't go above 50 degree, this'll take a while. Ok, how about we give you half a sandwich, but only if you buy the chicken as well.

Sounds like a recent event, I think.

Ok.... At first I had NO FREAKIN CLUE WAT U WERE TRYING TO SAY!
Now I think i sorta understand. So you are sayin that Arena Net said they would expand the storage a while ago, I think? If that IS wat you are trying to say, when did they say this? I have only jus tnow heard of a strorage expansion, bu then again, I started playing GW a couple months before factions so I missed out on a lot.

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Originally Posted by Gorebrex

To "the cheerleaders" Look, we DO have a right to complain about things we dont like. What about bugs? Should we not mention those, and just say, "Well, its a great game, and its free, so we're not allowed to complain, that would be wrong"? I gotta ask, have you EVER returned something to a store because you didnt like/need/want/already had it? Dont sound like it, sounds like you'd say, "Oh boy! I got extra!" I (and others) WILL complain about things we dont care for, as well as compliment things we like, thats how it works. NOONE in their right mind would never complain about anything.

First, I'm not being a "cheerleader", I am just being grateful and optimistic about wat Arena Net does.

Second, i NEVER said anything about bugs. When I said "Second, OMG, wat the hell?!?!? Are you people happy with anything Arena Net does??? I've only been on these forums for less than a week and I see SO MUCH WHINNING!!!", I was refering to people whinning about things like the luck titles not being maxable and the event mission being too hard. Anyone would complain about bugs (even I do, just download rakion and find a room I am playing in. I will almost always be complaining about some bug/glitch or another, or lag which I count as basically the same)

BTW I don't know how to do multiple quotes in one post. This is my first time trying so don't blame me if it didnt work.

I was gonna try to quote and say somthin else, but I can't find it now and I forgot wat it was about... o well

tear · Jul 03, 2006, 05:38 AM // 05:38

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Originally Posted by -Loki-

Hey, not to fret, your hungry, I'll bake you a chicken. Oh, wait, theres some complications with catching it, it'll take some time. Ok, it took us 3 months to catch the bugger, we'll bake it now. Oh, crap, we don't have what we need to prepare it, we'll grab it now. Sorry, our cars all broke down and every store closed, we had to walk to the next state. Sorry that took 4 months. Now we'll bake it. CRAP! The oven broke, we have to fix it. Ok, sorry fixing the oven took another 3 months. Now we can bake it. Wow, the oven temperature won't go above 50 degree, this'll take a while. Ok, how about we give you half a sandwich, but only if you buy the chicken as well.

Sounds like a recent event, I think.

Then shut up and eat somewhere else!

Seriously - horrible anology.

gamecube187 · Jul 03, 2006, 05:39 AM // 05:39

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Originally Posted by Kijik Oni Hanryuu

before I(or anyone else) get anymore involved, could a mod please close this thread, it has degenerated into a flame fest... like every other thread that attacks Anet.

How is it a flame fest? O wait nvm I see wait you mean. If only they would stop every thread that ends up like this... Or better yet, everyone be more...um, nice i guess.... so that threads wouldnt need to be closed..

Kijik Oni Hanryuu · Jul 03, 2006, 05:40 AM // 05:40

*hands gamecube a defender o anet suit o armor* good job man, I also agree with you, bugs and lag are the only things worthwhile to complain about, because they actually will get fixed, you will never see me aggravated on a bug report thread.

lyra_song · Jul 03, 2006, 05:41 AM // 05:41

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Originally Posted by twicky_kid

If you want to talk about mule characters then I can match your game. My main account has 2 for common materials. I also have 2 other accounts completely for storage. Am I complaining about this? No, I'm not. I still play with my mule characters. I keep a few slots open to pick up things.

You yourself said "its an improvement." Doesn't matter how small or big it is. Its an improvement. Besides no one is telling you to horde every item you come across. When I bought my 2 other accounts I did not complain that I had to buy more accounts for storage. That's the way the system is set up and that's how it works.

I have to pay 1 upfront fee for my accounts the rest of my GW life. If a company said "You can get cable tv for only 1 upfront fee of $1000 for the rest of you natural life." Would you do it? I know I would.

I deal with people like this all day. It sickens me sometimes. Most of the time we take a loss to get our customer's what they want. Then next time they want even more. Its like Americans think they are owed something. I can say that because I am an American. I can't speak for other countries because I live there.

I do agree that its another advantage of getting factions and can be used as a selling point but its not the only one. If you think this is a such a small improvement then what does it matter. You've lived without it before now you can live without it in the future if you choose to do so. Its all choice.

Its like people complain about the $10 per slots when they become available to sell. ITS A CHOICE TO GET IT PEOPLE. No one is twisting your arm.

Anyways go Anet and keep the improvements coming. I have not spent more time on a game my entire life and is the cheapest game I've invested into so far. No complaints here. I didn't even like factions during the beta and hated the CE debogal. I bought factions and liked the changes made to AB. Glad you do listen to your gamers. I was the one that suggested the breaking up of teams on this forum and no random enters. They do listen to us and do their best to please us. All for a 1 time fee for each chapter.

Yes costumers are sometimes annoying. No matter how much you do to try to please them, they are almost always never happy and only want more and more things for nothing. -.o

My company deals with some precious metals, mainly silver. Now, silver's price rises and falls daily. Sometimes its more expensive, sometimes its cheaper.

Some of the companies have certain deals. If you order on a certain day, the price of your silver is on the day of your ORDER. Some companies, the price of your silver is on the day of your SHIPMENT.

Now. Once you lock your price, you cant change it. It wouldnt be good business, i mean, you just cant do that. Thats not fair to us or our other costumers. I cant tell you how many costumers want to change their silver price because it rose or fell. -.- its just...ugh.

Yes, thats OT, but thats just to show you how bad costumers can get.

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Back on topic:

I agree with twicky. Theres gonna be a LOT of whining when they allow the $10 character slots.

People are gonna complain that:

1) Its not fair for those who dont buy
2) It should be free/we should have had it in the first place
3) Its not fair for those those who already bought multiple accounts
4) Its unbalanced!
5) its too expensive

This is a TINY storage improvement and it gets SOOO much negative feedback.

You know a person can only take so much abuse before they stop doing what you asked.

I understand the concept of "You cant please everyone all the time." but this is just ridiculous.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu · Jul 03, 2006, 05:42 AM // 05:42

Go Lyra very true, man I hope that GW stays around for a long time, but I don't see it happening, eventually the people at GW are going to snap and say "ya know WHAT F*** YOU! We're SHUTTING DOWN the GW SERVERS!" and then all the little whiner babies will die and I will move on because I didn't waste my life whining and had other things in back up to do just in case.

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Originally Posted by tear

Then shut up and eat somewhere else!

Seriously - horrible anology.

LOL I almost woke up the neighboors laughing. QFT man QFT *hands im a cookie of funniness*

Thallandor · Jul 03, 2006, 05:47 AM // 05:47

@ Kijik Oni Hanryuu, woah clam down there. I was getting the impression you were on high on something while you were posting, trying to burn down the forums with flames.

This thread has gone down to the drain with flames. Are we still talking about the validity of the new storage options? Other wise it serves no one to continue with name calling.

/vote for closure

Kijik Oni Hanryuu · Jul 03, 2006, 05:49 AM // 05:49

sorry Thall but I get really riled up when someone tries to personally attack me, along with attacking an honorable company that has done a charity for all of the gamers who are too poor to play anything else.

BTW I would give anything to get high on something right now but that's something totally different. I also did already /vote for closure myself

I really don't need to be getting anymore angry tonight or my head is going to explode then my body will run around hunting down random people and maiming them.

Gorebrex · Jul 03, 2006, 06:06 AM // 06:06

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Originally Posted by -Loki-

No, I didn't. I attempted to use an analogy to explain to someone why everyone was whining about the storage addition.

I dont see how thats an analogy. Anyway, you kinda did, by saying(in effect), "If you dont know how it works, dont make suggestions/give ideas on howd you think it could or should work"

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Originally Posted by Kijik Oni Hanryuu

...ok gorebrex RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO you gotta love the gored engine, about the cheerleaders thing, we aren't cheerleaders we are gracious unlike you greedy SoBs who just want more and more and more, ya know gluttony and greed are sins, have fun where yer going, I'll just cheerlead here on earth while you waste your life whining, and crying for more.. about the bugs, that's different you mention them so they can get changed you little sob are whining for something EXTRA if it wasn't extra then half the GW community wouldn't have been able to keep going right now. I also yes I do return something to the store if I don't like it, why don't you do the same and return GW if you don't like it so much and free up some server space, I could use it. O h and the I don't get recognition for my suggestions or my attempts to shut down the idiocy in these threads, I still whining about "omg my suggestions don't get recognition, whiiine whiiine biitch"do it because I know it is right. so I say the same to you ESBATMFOAD

Umm WTF are you on? How the hell did I come across as "greedy"? When did I say I didnt like GW?I seem to recall saying "Cant speak for generik, but the game doesnt make ME unhappy, just certain aspects of it." NEVER whined in my post about "omg my suggestions don't get recognition, whiiine whiiine biitch" Wheretf did that come from? Ive made over 150 post, and NOT ONCE have I said "Hey! How about a reply?"(or words to that effect). I asked here, because ONLY SOMEONE AT ANET COULD ANSWER THE QUESTION!

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Originally Posted by Kijik Oni Hanryuu

sorry Thall but I get really riled up when someone tries to personally attack me, along with attacking an honorable company that has done a charity for all of the gamers who are too poor to play anything else.

BTW I would give anything to get high on something right now but that's something totally different. I also did already /vote for closure myself

I really don't need to be getting anymore angry tonight or my head is going to explode then my body will run around hunting down random people and maiming them.

O_O Who personally attacked you? Charity? You think all free to play games are charity? PS, HOW do you know "gamers who are too poor to play anything else" is true?
That explains it, I guess...

gamecube187 · Jul 03, 2006, 06:13 AM // 06:13

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Originally Posted by Kijik Oni Hanryuu

sorry Thall but I get really riled up when someone tries to personally attack me, along with attacking an honorable company that has done a charity for all of the gamers who are too poor to play anything else.

BTW I would give anything to get high on something right now but that's something totally different. I also did already /vote for closure myself

I really don't need to be getting anymore angry tonight or my head is going to explode then my body will run around hunting down random people and maiming them.

LMAO! u cant get angry cuz wat? lol

And wait. THe company has done chairity for all the gamers taht are too poor to play anything else? WTF? Just so you know, its not that i am "too poor". Its because 1) i acually like this game and 2) I don't belive in buying a game just to install it and then to acually play it, you have to pay monthly. It just doesnt make sence to me... I mean, i paid for it once, isnt that good enough?
Y should I pay for a game over and over if I alredy originally paid for it??? It just baffles me how someone came up with taht and how so many people can agree to that...

Anyway... For the new character slots thing (first of all, how is that remotly related to account storage? o well)

1) how is it unfair to the people that don't buy it? Its optional. You really don't gain much except not havin to remake characters if you want to play more than your account can have..

2)Y should we have had it in the first place? Arena Net is the one makin the game, and they EASILY could have just left it at four character slots, even if you did buy factions.

3) I agree with you on that

4) How is it unbalanced if you payed for it, and other people can get just as many as you?

5) I think its worth the price, but that one is reall just opinion....

BTW I'm not trying to flame you, you just put no proof as to wat why you said wat you said so I can't really agree with you on any but your third one....

Kijik Oni Hanryuu · Jul 03, 2006, 06:15 AM // 06:15

for one, I was on adrenaline, you got yourself caught in the crossfire, and you chose the wrong side... especially with the cheerleaders comment, that set me off, if you had read some of the earlier posts you would have known I already slammed aomeone else for that BS. You got me at the wrong place and the wrong time, I apologise for exaggerating somethings. I was wrong for some of the things I said, but seriously don't EXPECT to get a response directly to you from Anet, not likely they are very busy. Also I habve made roughly 450 posts, and most of them are defending anet or actually talking about sin subjects, I have come to really appreciate the sin.. In a wrap up I am sorry you got caught in the crossfire, bad timeing bad place... till next time...

Gamecube, she doesn't actually believe that stuff, she is saying that those are the viewpoints the whiners will take, adn about the anger thing.... well lets just say me getting angry isn't too desirable for anything living around me at the time that I get truely angry... oh and the char slot thing is related to storage becuase it is another optional add-on that people are VEEEERRRY likely to bitch about..

twicky_kid · Jul 03, 2006, 06:20 AM // 06:20

Cube you should look at the orginal post about the character slots when the news was released.

It was whinners everywhere. Just about the entire thread was complaining. Don't ask me why people complain about a choice but that's about all they do on these forums.

Constructive conversations are very rare here. Some one always ruins good topics. This post was destined for the lock just by the title. Flame threads never make it even this far. Wonder if the mods are alseep?

People should learn to be content with what you have. It won't be there forever. When its gone you'll realize how much you took it for granted.

gamecube187 · Jul 03, 2006, 06:24 AM // 06:24

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Originally Posted by Kijik Oni Hanryuu

for one, I was on adrenaline, you got yourself caught in the crossfire, and you chose the wrong side... especially with the cheerleaders comment, that set me off, if you had read some of the earlier posts you would have known I already slammed aomeone else for that BS. You got me at the wrong place and the wrong time, I apologise for exaggerating somethings. I was wrong for some of the things I said, but seriously don't EXPECT to get a response directly to you from Anet, not likely they are very busy. Also I habve made roughly 450 posts, and most of them are defending anet or actually talking about sin subjects, I have come to really appreciate the sin.. In a wrap up I am sorry you got caught in the crossfire, bad timeing bad place... till next time...

Gamecube, she doesn't actually believe that stuff, she is saying that those are the viewpoints the whiners will take, adn about the anger thing.... well lets just say me getting angry isn't too desirable for anything living around me at the time that I get truely angry... oh and the char slot thing is related to storage becuase it is another optional add-on that people are VEEEERRRY likely to bitch about..

Oh I see. Those are just things people MIGHT complain about... oops lol i took it completely different. o well.

and ur right twitchy kid. Im amazed i didnt realize that untill i read that.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu · Jul 03, 2006, 06:28 AM // 06:28

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Originally Posted by twicky_kid

People should learn to be content with what you have. It won't be there forever. When its gone you'll realize how much you took it for granted.

QFT Twicky, that is one of my main driving forces against these people who take these things for granted, sad thing is I used to be just like these people taking everything for granted and wanting more, until the most important thing to me in the world, which I took for granted, was ripped away. Having something you value more than anything stripped from you is one of life's major lessons. Sadly it seems that some people can't learn from the stories of others and must go through the pain of loss for themselves.